during that same period of time you had 7 to 8 mill jon jobs created in the united states of america, so the bush tax cuts did exactly what they were supposed to do. unfortunately everything went awry when nancy pelosi took over the house of representatives with her philosophy of government and senator harry reid took over the suns senate, and with the threats that those two and their philosophies posed to the job creators in america, you saw our unemployment immediately start to go the wrong direction, but the facts are there, look at the department of labor statistics. >> sir, sir, i need to get to the -- >> the deficit declined during this same period of time. >> i need to get to the debt ceiling. the fact is those tax cuts are still in place, so the fact that anyone got in office didn't change the tax code at all, which is not the statement you made. >> in january of 2007. >> so the fact that congress changed has nothing to do with the tax cuts, they're still in play and unemployment is 9.2, so we can have different opinions, we can't have different facts. the tax cuts did not cha